Monday, August 20, 2012

STAGE A CONFRONTATION, SHOOT SOMEONE: GO HOME

By Juan Montoya
As someone who has been the subject of vigorous prosecution from the Brownsville Police Department for even minimal offenses, it strikes me as most unusual to see the treatment afforded to the chief city health inspector Willie Gonzalez.
You remember him. He's the man identified all over the cybersphere as the man who shot a man and a woman at the Toucan Lounge last week after he felt threatened when he exited the watering hole after the 2 a.m. closing time.
News has reached us that he had heard that Gonzalez was not assaulted as he left the bar, but rather had gone into Toucan's in search of his girlfriend, who he had been told was partying in the company of another boyfriend.
After he confronted them and shot them, he then reportedly drove to the police station and turned himself in. The cops let him go home after he gave them his version of the events.
Isn't that rich.
Here's a guy who has been drinking. Right? As cops figure when they arrest people coming out of bars, why else would he be there? People are arrested on flimsier excuses that that. Then, after he provoked the incident and felt threatened, he didn't call the cops. Instead, he reached into the glove compartment of the car, pulled out the handgun he had taken with him for just such an event, and started firing away hitting the man and woman.
Then, it gets curiouser.
In his (sober or panicked) ) state, he has the presence of mind to drive all the way from Toucan's to the PD on Jackson Street and turn himself in.
If he had taken the gun there in anticipation of confronting the traitorous woman and her consort, doesn't that smack of premeditated attempted manslaughter?
Was he driving under the influence? Was he given a sobriety test before he was let go? Did he call his mother Lydia to run interference for him with her former co-workers like city manager Charlie Cabler and the rest of the gang? Or did he call Cabler himself.
Then, Gonzalez's name wasn't even been divulged to the newspaper or to the public. He wasn't even booked either for the shootings, the possession of a reportedly unregistered handgun, or even for public intoxication. In fact, police have withheld the report or the names of the participants on the incident from the news media.
Lydia Gonzalez, his mother, was the long-time Director of Human Resources (personnel), and his father, Willie Sr., was a respected employee and an indefatigable fighter for La Raza and human rights.
Still, as others have pointed out, the treatment afforded Willie Jr. smacks of the same kind of treatment afforded at the county to Aurora De la Garza's son Joey, a thief, or more recently, the daughter of Asst. DA Peter Gilman, whose wife also works for the DA and whose daughter's boss just happens to be, also, Aurorita.
As far as we have been able to ascertain, Gonzalez was placed on administrative leave pending an investigation (ahem!) of the "incident."
"The last time I was arrested for PI I was walking down the sidewalk minding my own business and just blocks from home," said one of our friends. "I didn't shoot anybody. I had walked for more than a mile already without incident, but a young cop just pulled over and took me in. Now I owe the city $250. They even put my picture on their public records. This guy shot two people after preparing a gun for a confrontation and they let him go because of who he is and who he works for. What gives?"

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

"All men are created equal, but some are more equal than others."

Anonymous said...

You're full of shit

Anonymous said...

What gives? You are a cry baby, that is what gives!

Anonymous said...

To start off with, your story is completely wrong. Thats not what happened at all. Your whole version is false. Do your homework first before you report it cause thats bullshit.

Anonymous said...

K te dije? CHINGAS A TU MADRE PINCHE CHIEF DE LA POLICIA BUENO PARA UNA PUTA MADRE, MAL NACIDO Y VALE VERGA!!! COMO ES POSIBLE QUE LA POLICIA HAIGA PERMITIDO DEJAR IR A ESTE INDIVIDUO DESPUES DE BALACEAR A DOS PERSONAS EN UN LUGAR PUBLICO> ESTE CHIEF DE LA POLICIA TIENEN QUE CORRERLO POR QUE NO VALE PARA PURA MADRE,

Anonymous said...

This case and yours are entirely different.

In the bar parking lot shooting, the police did not witness the event. If things happened as the shooters says, there was no crime. In any case they will investigate and press charges if there is evidence of a crime.

In your case, the Officers witnessed you committing the offense. No need for an investigation before charges are brought.

I would assume nobody like to get arrested for being drunk in public and haveing their picture posted. But, there is no/zero/zip/nada comparison between you and the Tulcan shooter.

Anonymous said...

There is no firearms registraton in Texas, so the fellow could not posses an unregisted handgun. It is perfectly legal to have a handgun in your car.

Had he taken the weapon into the bar, that would have been a felony.

You really need a fact checker.

Anonymous said...

Juan,

You obviously heard wrong or from an uninformed party. Do better research instead of trusting what you hear and then simply printing it. File an open records request and follow up once it is submitted to the DA's office.

Anonymous said...

MORE CORRUPTION THAT HAS AURORA AS A COMMON DENOMINATOR. let him bite the bait AURORA WILL SOON SINK LIKE THE TITANIC AND TAKE WILLIE WITH HIM..

Anonymous said...

Juan Montoya, please fill your time with something other than making up dramatic stories. This is the most ridiculous shit I have ever heard. Get some facts straight and then start using those little fingers of yours..better yet, you should really stop all together, as dissatisfying as it was to read these lies, it was especially hard to see that you can't even keep your own story line straight. Idiot.

Anonymous said...

Open Records Request?

You are in MANUFACTURED CONSENT DOMAIN.
America is a joke, an adverse brasilian act, a dance.

Everything is hidden from the surface.

DA's office? bawaaahaha.

God is the only one that can bring shit into light. Asi hiede rico

Verdad Ernie, Erin, Norma HiedenHernandez

Anonymous said...

Those who are defending the shooter is because they are friends of his. He was not in danger there was no knife or handgun found or reported by the victims. You can not carry a loaded gun in the "glove compartment", that was pre meditated. They are several violations broken, beside no names on news paper or media in general.

Anonymous said...

Maclovioomalley got a dwi this past weekend and has been covered up!!!!! I dare you to post this!

Anonymous said...

It's called the Castle Doctrine. Look it up in the Texas State Statutes. If someone threatens you in your home or vehicle, you have the absolute right, without question to defend yourself or your loved ones. I don't know the true facts, there are multiple stories-- for sure rumor mongering and hate speech will give way to justice and facts. We can trust the system to carry out the laws that protect those assaulted under the provisions of the Castle Doctrine. Juan Montoya, if you have an axe to grind with the police, that's no excuse for you to make accusations which may prove baseless. I doubt you know the whole story, and we don't know what type of people were involved, but we do know that when you name names you could very well put people (maybe innocent people) in jeopardy-- I trust the system will do what's right.

Anonymous said...

this pathetic blog airs half-truths and slanderous information but determines which comments can be published or not... what a farse!

Troll-y Bus said...

Why shoot both of them? You mean to tell me his long time (?) girlfriend attacked him too? How did things escalate before he managed to get outside? Why not stay inside with numerous witnesses? Why go outside if there was a reasonable suspicion of being attacked? Why not call the police immediately? Why accost a couple and leave without thinking you are in danger? Is it because there is a gun in the car? Did he run outside to grab his gun because his confrontation was too hot to handle? Why aren't the victims in jail if they were trying to do something to him?

Anonymous said...

First you have to have permission by the state to carry a gun, the issue here is that this shit happenned in a public place, with a public figure involved!!! This is all BS...so this means anyone can kill a person and as long as the police doesnt witness the crime, EVERYTHING IS OK??? well then you guys are fucked up!!! All this information is comming from Brownsville city employees that know these people and that really did witness the incident.

Anonymous said...

Whoever posted these remarks against Mr Montoya is obviously full of shit, and has their own itinery. Someone got shot, and somebody deserves to go to jail..

Anonymous said...

Juan Montoya has never been one to cotton to favoritism when it comes to dealing with the law, so you guys just lay off. (choke, gag, snortle, laugh, etc.)

Anonymous said...



"Those who are defending the shooter is because they are friends of his. He was not in danger there was no knife or handgun found or reported by the victims. You can not carry a loaded gun in the "glove compartment", that was pre meditated. They are several violations broken, beside no names on news paper or media in general"

Nobody is defending the shooter, just trying to correct the facts that Montoya overlooked or got wrong. I for one never met the shooter or even know who he is.

Your reply is also full of mistakes, let's take them one by one.

1. In order to defend your self, the person coming at you does not need to have a knife or gun, or even anything other than their hands. If you are in fear of being killed or suffering serious bodily harm you can defend your self with deadly force if necessary. This has been the law in Texas for generations.

2. Texas law does not require any kind of permit to have a gun in your car as long as you are not a convicted felon or a member of a know violent street gang.

Your ignorance of the law, rivals that of Juan Montoya. I don't have a dog in this fight, just hate to see such a level of ignorance posted on the web where folks swallow it just because somebody put it there.


Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"First you have to have permission by the state to carry a gun, the issue here is that this shit happenned in a public place, with a public figure involved!!! This is all BS...so this means anyone can kill a person and as long as the police doesnt witness the crime, EVERYTHING IS OK??? well then you guys are fucked up!!! All this information is comming from Brownsville city employees that know these people and that really did witness the incident"

Jeeze, the stupidity continues. First of all you do not need permission of the State to have a gun on or about your person, in your home, on your property, you business (if you are the owner)or your car.

Secondly, nobody got killed in the Tulcan bar shooting, just shot up a little bit.

Third, Folks get arrested for murder all the time. When the cops get there, they have to make a decision. If the crime scene and witnesses give probably cause there was a crime committed they will make an arrest on the spot.

It it looks like the event might be a legitimate case of self defense, they will not make an arrest, but do an ivestigation and present the evidence to a Grand Jury for it to decide if charges will be pressed.

There is no politics here, but straight forward police work, by the book.

Some of you people are just plain stupid. I wonder how you can take a crap by yourselves without help.

Anonymous said...

In Texas you can carry a Firearm without a permit as long as the Firearm is not loaded and the ammunition stored in other part of the vehicle,if you have a concealed weapon permit you can carry it loaded and concealed,this is a passion crime and the ass hole shooter should have had spent the night in jail until a judge set bail for him a court

Anonymous said...

"In Texas you can carry a Firearm without a permit as long as the Firearm is not loaded and the ammunition stored in other part of the vehicle,if you have a concealed weapon permit you can carry it loaded and concealed,this is a passion crime and the ass hole shooter should have had spent the night in jail until a judge set bail for him a court"

Good shit, where do you guys get this stuff from, certainly not from a Texas Law Book. Texas law makes no distinction between a loaded and unloaded firearm. A gun, is a gun, is a gun.

There are some states where that would be true and these is a Federal law about transporting firearms from state to state, where this is true, but it is not Texas law. Texas law doesn't give a shit what the law in Iowa or whatever is or what the pinched federal law is. In Texas if you are not a convicted felon or a member of a violent street gang, you can have a loaded handgun in your car..period..that is it.

In Texas there is no "permit". There is a Concealed Handgun License that allows the holder to carry a concealed handgun everywhere, except those places that statue says you can't. The statute says you can't carry a concealed handgun into the Tulcan bar.

Some states have open carry, which means you can carry the handgun openly. Texas does not have such a law.

You guys reading this nonsense on some bathroom wall or did somebody on the internet tell you this was Texas law. In either case, it is caca.

Anonymous said...

Once again, the law protects you in your home or car from anyone using force to remove you from your premises or to gain access to your premises. There is no stipulation as to how much force the attacker uses before a weapon can be used against him, anything perceived as a threat in this instance can be answered with deadly force. I don't think we know all the facts in any case-- but if someone were to break into my home or force their way into my car, I am glad that Rick Perry signed into law a provision that will allow me to protect myself. If you people out there, who are outraged, don't like the law, then vote for other legislators who will change it...

Anonymous said...

Once again, the law protects you in your home or car from anyone using force to remove you from your premises or to gain access to your premises. There is no stipulation as to how much force the attacker uses before a weapon can be used against him, anything perceived as a threat in this instance can be answered with deadly force. I don't think we know all the facts in any case-- but if someone were to break into my home or force their way into my car, I am glad that Rick Perry signed into law a provision that will allow me to protect myself. If you people out there, who are outraged, don't like the law, then vote for other legislators who will change it...

Anonymous said...

Plain stupid? Talk about stupid people. U should consider yourself part of the stupid people. On your third point its not probably cause as you use it for an arrest. Its PROBABLE CAUSE. So whos the stupid one? Pendejo....

Anonymous said...

August 21, 2012 12:27 PM

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CORRUPTED IGNORANT FUCKER!!! SHOW US IN THIS BLOG THAT ANYONE CAN CARRY A FUCKING GUN WITH OUT A PERMIT!!! IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THEN WHY IN THE FUCK ARE THE PERMITS HANDED BY THE STATE? WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE TRAINNING TO BE ABLE TO CARRY A GUN? YOU IGNORANT SON OF A BITCH, THE TRAININGS ARE MADE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE INTERESTS TO CARRY A GUN WITH THEM OR UNDER THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TRAINING SO THAT THE DELINCUENT ASS HOLE WILL NOT SHOOT ANYONE JUST BECAUSE HES MAD!!! AND IN A PUBLIC PLACE WHERE THERE WAS PEOPLE IN THE AREA!! HE PUTTED ALL THOSE PEOPLE AT RISK ACTING OUT OF ANGER, SO THE ONLY IGNORANT FUCKER HERE IS YOU!!! AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, YOU CAN ONLY FIRE A WEAPON (ONLY IF THE AGRESSOR HAS A WEAPON IN HIS HANDS THAT IS PUTTING THE OTHER PARTYS LIFE AT RISK) (YOU CAN NOT FIRE A WEAPON IN PUBLIC, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY)SO DONT BE STUPID ENOUGH AND SO IGNORANT TO BE SAYING ALL YOUR BS, CUZ YOU ARE SO FUCKING WRONG BITCH!!! GO TO TRAINNING AND SEE THE RESPONSIBILITIES THE WEAPON GIVES YOU MF!!! ME CAGA LOS HUEVOS ESCUCHAR LA IGNORANCIA DE TANTOS PENDEJOS!!! AND LEAVE JUANITO THE FUCK ALONE BASTARDS, HE DOES A GREAT JOB IN HIS REPORTS.

Anonymous said...

If you perceive a threat, you can use deadly force???? Pretty much any paranoid wimp scared of his own shadow can shoot anyone and get away with it ...that's bullcrap. Bottom line, this idiot went to a bar and shot two people, no one took him to toucan's by force.

JYD junk yard doggy said...

Somos familia, charlie crapbler will take care of willie, he owes his mom, agaren la onda people, we help each other out, somos familia, JYD

Medusa Patron said...

Montoya, I am a patron of Medusa on a regular basis. This past Friday, Jason Moody had his birthday party there. There were several people from the district attorney office there partying.

Then, the district attorney Armando Villalobos shows up and it was party time. Armando Villalobos was taking shots and talking to the pretty women in the place. He was behaving not like his office manager, Michelle Garcia who appeared to be guzzling the beer and shots like it was come. I found it surprising and odd that Armando Villalobos would be out and having a good time considering that he has some serious criminal charges on him? It didn't surprise me about that Michelle, she is a boozer. I would think that they would be more discreet about their partying ways since they represent the people in this county? I guess Armando Villalobos thinks he is going to jail and might as well have one good one before that? Where was his wife? It got even more interesting when county judge David Gonzalez showed up and accompanied Armando Villalobos.

David Gonzalez was on the prowl since he was eyeing the pretty ladies and licking his chops. He was not drinking but having a good time. I wonder who drove our elected district attorney home because he drank alot and no way he could drive when the night was over? I guess he doesn't have to be the stuck up person that he was before his criminal troubles?

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Shut the Fuck Up.

Your obcene and insulting rant aside, you are wrong on a number of point.

1. Texas does not have "permits", they have Concealed Handgun Licenses as stated in the original post. You should read more carefully.

2. Whether you like it or not, you can defend yourself if you are in fear of bodily injury or death whether or not the person has a weapon in this hand. This is very subjective and is most often a question for the jury. It will involve, the age, size and physical condition of the victim and the agressor. It will also involve any prior threats and agressive conduct.

3. The Texas Castle Law does cover your car, and if a person reached inside of your car to grab you, you can used deadly force.

4. You can have a gun on or about your person,in your home, on your property or at your place of work if you are the owner or authorized to do so by the owner.

5. You can have a handgun in your car, unless you are a felon or a member of a known violent street game.

Just for the record, I am a Law School Graduate, a former prosecutor, hold a Texas CCH and in fact teach the concealed handgun courses. So, you see, I have taken the training, and do know the law on this matter.

You sir are an ignorant blowhard, who does not know the law. Juan Montoya does not know the law either, but persists on writting such nonsense, because it suits his particular view of life here in Brownsville.

Now you were entirely wrong in your obscene insulting rant, and should apologize if you were a man of honor and character. However, I strongly suspect you are some form of low life person of poor charcter and no honor, so I would hold my breath for such an apology.

Anonymous said...

August 23, 2012 1:55 PM

GO FUCK YOUR SELF DUDE, NO WONDER BROWNSVILLE IS THE WAY IT IS AND GOING DOWN BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU FAT ASS!!! NO APOLOGY FOR YOU BITCH, SO FUCK YOU.

Anonymous said...

Has anybody question the Chief's academic qualifications over the other candidates?

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Go Fuck your self dude,

One thing about low life, low class people is they never fail to act according to character. You can depend on them to be what they are under any and all circumstances. Nice to know some things remain predictable.

Anonymous said...

Okay. .you two "dudes" settle down before one of you "perceives" a threat. LOL :)

Anonymous said...

Has anybody question the Chief's academic qualifications over the other candidates?

August 23, 2012 8:58 PM

Well yessssss!!! The chief's great qualifications are that he dances naked on top of his desk at BPD office, and he sings the song "IM SEXY AND I KNOW IT", that's what was informed to me!!!! and he also likes the song of Michael Jackson, "IM BAD" and he does also the moon walk inside the office since that office is very nice and big!!!! he looks cute :)

Anonymous said...

Either way, Juan Montoya's version of what happned is completely false. He simply printed a rumor. At least get the facts straight before you print it and make an ass out of yourself. Nothing you printed was true. Nothing. Moron!

Anonymous said...

You guys should know that the one spreading the RUMOR OF THE SHOOTING WAS ERNESTO ELIZONDO FROM DOWN TOWN!!!! IT WAS THE ERNESTO ELIZONDO, THE ONE WHO SELLS ALL SECOND HAND CLOTHES DOWN TOWN!!! Ernesto Elizondo is the one who is always making people think he is rich and HE IS NOT!!! Ernesto Elizondo is the one who ALWAYS gets free drinks from people and cheats them out of money when partying!!! ALL YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THAT IT WAS ERNESTO ELIZONDO SPREADING ALL THE LIES ABOUT THE SHOOTING!!! SO ALL OF YOU CAN GO BACK TO HIM AND KICK HIM IN THE ASS FOR LYING AND YOU GUYS SHOULD THANK HIM ALSO FOR OPENNING HIS FUCKING MOUTH WITH OUT KNOWING AS ALWAYS!!! It has nothing to do with Juanito, ITS ALL ERNESTOS ELIZONDOS FAULT!!! THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

OHHHH GREAT LORD!!!!!! ESTE FUE EL NACO, POBRE Y MENTIROSO DE ERNESTO ELIZONDO!!!! EL QUE VENDE TODO EL GARRERO DE SEGUNDA EN EL CENTRO DE DOWN TOWN!!! YOU GUYS SHOULD GO AND KICK HIS ASS FOR LYING ABOUT THE SHOOTING AND SPREADING RUMORS TO PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT TRUE!!!! NOW, THE VICTIMS SHOULD PRESS CHARGES ON ERNESTO FOR BEING A LYAR AND DIFAMATION!!! GO FOR IT PEOPLE AND KICK ERNESTOS ASSSSSS!!!

rita