Thursday, November 8, 2012

ORTIZ OWNS UP TO SNAFU: SAYS BALLOTS WERE PUT IN UNSECURED YELLOW PLASTIC BAGS

By Juan Montoya
After mounting reports of election workers putting completed ballots in unsecured yellow plastic bags and a woman who threatened a Civil Rights action unless she was shown that her disabled son's ballot was counted, Cameron County Elections Administrator Roger Ortiz admitted that the votes were placed there by his workers for an undetermined amount of  time only until malfunctioning scanning machines started working again.
But, until confronted by the woman, Ortiz had failed to disclose that his workers had resorted to using plastic bags to collect the votes. When confronted by more than one voter who saw their votes go into the bags instead of the boxes, he began collecting affidavits from the precinct judge and election workers to verify that those actions took place.
However, just as he said this morning, he could not tell us this morning how many votes cast in the Brownsville Independent School District and the general election were "provisional" and had yet to be counted.
It now appears that for hours on Tuesday, many of the votes cast in Precinct 71 (Perkins Middle School) were not gathered in the traditional secure ballot boxes, but were collected in yellow plastic bags until the malfunctioning scanning machines were fixed.
For a time, they were placed along with other "provisional" ballots of people who showed up at the wrong precinct, had no ID, etc., and left uncounted in red plastic bags which were then taken to the elections office.
According to workers, it wasn't until after 2 p.m. that the scanners were fixed at Perkins and the ballots were again placed in the secure boxes.
As it stands now, there is still an unknown number of provisional ballots that have not been counted yet.
The provisional ballots were placed in red plastic bags in the elections office and will be reviewed by the resolution board which will the decide which can be counted. The county has five working days to tally the provisional ballots as well as the military mail-in votes cast by voters in the armed forces.
Right now, with one of the BISD races hanging in the balance with a four-vote difference, there could be  uncounted ballots that could determine that race, a recount notwithstanding.
In fact, until those "provisional" ballots are counted, no one will know how many votes are in those red bags that have yet to be counted.
Linda Gill Martinez beat Jose Hector Chirinos 14,709 to 14,705 according to the figures provided to the BISD administration and posted on their web site. However, Ortiz said there is no way of knowing what the final tally will be on that race, or on all the other races for that matter.
"The totals will change," Ortiz told the candidates, trustees and BISD administrators who showed up Monday morning to learn about the discrepancies surrounding the election.
However, Ortiz put on a good face when asked by a local broadcaster how the voting went on election day.
"There were small hiccups, like always, there will always will be, but nothing major that you say couldn't be corrected immediately or that we could visit and fix, so I think overall it was a good election," he said.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

Tell me Juanio! Why would Hector Gonzales call in sick to work and then show up with Leandra Costilla and Smiley Juarez at Roger Ortiz's office? What's up with that? Is Hector their on official business? Was he sent by Cata to make sure Chirinos doesn't win? Where is the DA? Where is Carlos Cascos?

Anonymous said...

I thought "plastic bags" were banned. Just kidding.

Anonymous said...

Praying that they find a bag full of votes for Clupper or Barbosa, at this point I don't care who, so we can get rid of Cata, the evil one!

Joaquin said...

I agree with the first comment. Get the DA involved. But unlike him, I think they should throw Ortiz in jail for being an idiot. This is clearly an attempt to steal the election and give it to Chirinos.

Anonymous said...

Joaquin: What's your basis for stating this is "clearly an attempt to steal the election and give it to Chirinos."? Should we not expect that ALL votes are counted irregardless of who they are for?

Anonymous said...

I think you mean SNAFU...."SITUATION NORMAL, ALL FUCKED UP".....And that about says it for the Cameron Co Elections Office and Roger Ortiz....SNAFU to the max.

Anonymous said...

Joaquin, they are there to make sure Chirinos loses! But that is not the whole picture. Voting is the only time we get a chance to speak out and make things happen. How dare this worthless piece of shit and the worthles employees cast aside bags full of voices without being heard! That fucker needs to go to jail and the people responsible for this crap!

Anonymous said...

Classic exit stratgy, Ortiz is going out with a bang, or in Español, going out with a desmadre.

Anonymous said...

Irregardless is a word not used in formal English. It is a nonstandard word used in casual writing. To make a valid point, just use the word, regardless.
ANOTHER FUBAR!

Anonymous said...

Whoever said Hector Gonzalez called in sick, how do you know? Why don't you get the facts straight instead of making up lies like you have been doing all along.

What don't all of you stop harassing this poor man. What the hell has he done to any of you?

Just remember there is a god and he will deal with all of you demons.

Anonymous said...

For your information Rick, Ismael Garcia and Leandra asked Hector to go with them. Why don't you get his work schedule before you shoot your mouth off not that it's any of your business but to shut you up.

Rick next time just pick up the phone yourself and bitch out Dr. montoya don't have Minnie do your dirty work.

Anonymous said...

Hey Rick, Minerva Pena has failed to tell you that she wanted to bring Hector González back as a deputy supt. this is what she told alot of us at the main office. She also told us how she begged you not to fire Hector this would cost your election. Yeap, it sure did!

Anonymous said...

If Minerva didn't want to settle with Gonzalez, why wasn't she at the mediation? Could it be she messed up during her deposition?

She hasn't been very creditable lately, she really has everyone fooled.

Joaquin said...

What's my basis? Seriously? We don't know where these votes have been. They were unsecure for hours. Anyone could have tampered with them as they were just in a plastic bag. The fact they are bringing this up is CLEARLY an attempt to steal the election from Martinez. Ortiz needs to be held accountable and likely charged with a crime.

Anonymous said...

Que linda democrasia!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey Luci and Cata, Stop Bashing Minerva!!!!!!!!! We all know you are constantly defending your Buddy Gonzalez. You now feeling guilty giving away our taxpayers money to Gonzalez and Juarez? One question? What did you get for your loyalty to them? But you are right about one thing, God will deal with YOUR demons. We just pray that it is sooner that later. Just remember to tell your buddies that you can't make a deal with the devil and expect not to answer to God for your deals.

Former county employee said...

ROGER ORTIZ, GET THE FUCK OUT NOW WHILE YOU CAN BEFORE THE FEDS COME LOOKING FOR YOU OR SOMEONE OUT OF THE STATE ELECTION OFFICE OR ATTORNEY GENERAL! YOU WORTHLESS TWO STEPPER!

Anonymous said...

Im back....

Fuck you chris PINTO valadez or maclovio omalley or whatever name u have , fuck you, mother fucker...

Ortiz you will get fucked soon enough mother fucker....

Btw, chris es joto, le gusta la verga....

Anonymous said...

Minerva was bragging to us he was the best superintendent she had ever worked with and she was bringing him back because he was the only one that listened to her and helped her with the students chess team.

You told us Ms. minerva, why are you afraid to admit this?

Luci and caty have nothing to feel guilty, they were not the ones that used up the fund balance.

Nor did they come up with some stupid board corporation to sell bonds without the our/citizens vote. How much of a cut did Noe Hinojosa give Minerva and Rick plus Cortez, Colunga and Aguilar.

Anonymous said...

What did Minerva get for her loyality to Rick. Or what does Rick have on her?

Anonymous said...

Minerva and Rick you and your buddies are the ones that have sold your souls to the devil. Just look at all the wrong you all have done.

Intentionally & maliciously hurt people and robbed the district and taxpayer millions of dollars that belonged to our students and employees.

Between 2008=2010 you thieves depleted the fund balance to 57 million from 176 million. So stop blaming Luci and Caty.

Anonymous said...

How much money did Rick and Patrick Hammas pay Roger to come up with this sorry ass provisional ballots?

Anonymous said...

Sure wish these people would act there age. Luci is in her 60's, well conserved. Cata is in her 50's, but looks a bit older. Yet both act like they are still in high school. Why? Any guesses???

Anonymous said...

QUESTION: HOW CAN RUDOLFO BOLIVAR THE SON THAT IS IN JAIL VOTE ????

1072900916 BOLIVAR, RODOLFO, 1205 W SAINT CHARLES ST, BROWNSVILLE TX"
QUESTION: HOW CAN RUDOLFO BOLIVAR THE SON THAT IS IN JAIL VOTE ????
1072369281 MANCHA, MANUEL MJR 11 BISD 35 E BROADWAY ST, BROWNSVILLE TX

1072900916 BOLIVAR, RODOLFO, 1205 W SAINT CHARLES ST, BROWNSVILLE TX
QUESTION: HOW CAN RUDOLFO BOLIVAR THE SON THAT IS IN JAIL VOTE ????
1072369281 MANCHA, MANUEL MJR 11 BISD 35 E BROADWAY ST, BROWNSVILLE TX

1072900916 BOLIVAR, RODOLFO, 1205 W SAINT CHARLES ST, BROWNSVILLE TX

Anonymous said...

WHY DID RUBEN CORTEZ AND LINDA SALAZAR WON, WELL THEY HAVE THEIR DAUGHTERS WORKING THE CAMERON COUNTY POLITIQUERA SYSTEM.
WHY DID RUBEN CORTEZ AND LINDA SALAZAR WON, WELL THEY HAVE THEIR DAUGHTERS WORKING THE CARMERON COUNTY POLITIQUERA SYSTEM.

Anonymous said...

FROM RRANONY"DIDN'T MINERVA, POWERS, CHIRINOS AND BUTCH BARBOSA ALLEGEDLY?????
--USED BETWEEN 363 -456 POLITIQUERA MAIL-IN V0TES??
--USED BETWEEN 900-1200 EARLY ELECTION POLITIQUERA VOTES?? AND
--USED SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO VOTE?? USED JAIL BIRDS, UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE, USED PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED OUT OF BROWNSVILLE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION????"

Anonymous said...

Sounds like this is more of an attempt to keep Chrinos from winning the election. Linda Martinez is affliated with Caty.

Stop blaming Chirinos for the situation at transportation. With a district this size, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you need to increase the budget if you're going to add more schools. You have six high schools with athletic programs and academic programs that compete out of town and within town? How do they get there? Bus drivers. What are supposed to tell these kids when they make the playoffs? Sorry you can't go because there's no money?
In addition to the 6 high schools, you have 11 middle schools with athletic programs and academic programs as well. Factor in the 40+ elementary schools....wow!
Add money to the budget or flex the routes where the drivers work 40 hours including regular routes and evening routes for the games.

Anonymous said...

Forget about the bags of votes, how can you call an election if you haven't even counted the military vote? Have you no shame or respect for our military and more importatntly, for the right to vote? On another note, looks like someone hit a tender spot at BISD "Hector G."

Anonymous said...

This is in response to the person that stated Ismael Garcia and Leandra asked Hector to go with them and to get his work schedule.

I thought the agreement was that ONLY Montoya could approve Hector's consultation.

It is not "poor" Hector he is getting richer by the day on the backs of BISD's taxpayers backs.

Personally I would not call him at all, let him sit at his Harlingen residence.

Anonymous said...

Why would Chirinos resign if he did nothing wrong? He only admitted he was guilty of something by resigning instead of proving he hadn't done anything wrong.

People need to stop blaming others for their own mistakes. Be adult enough you messed up and move on. You will be a bigger person and respected by admitting your faults.

Anonymous said...

Another one that doesn't act her age in Minerva Pena. She's also not the sharpess tool in the shed. How long has see been on the Board?

Anonymous said...

I agree with Minerva, Hector Gonzalez was the best superintendent we have ever had, and the smartest one. Ever since you were thrown out the district has gone to potts.

People don't know how to value a good thing.
Glad to see you vindicated.

Anonymous said...

Gonzalez was and is a true honest leader.

Anonymous said...

The FBI or Texas Rangers should investigate the BISD ballots, how can someone that is in jail vote? Especially if convicted of murder!

Anonymous said...

11/11/12 7.11am comment,yo are 100% wrigth,FBI, texas rangers, you have a lot of work in this area, just read the blogs, a lot of corruption,in county, and city, is time to stop all this vote fraud, bid riging in city purchasing. the mayor and commisioners dont do nothing. put all this directors in jail.

Anonymous said...

To the 7:11 AM

Hector Gonzalez, Pat Lehman, Art Rendon, Cata Presas, Luci Longoria plus el CRIADO/GATO de Ted, Carlos
Quintanilla, is this all you guys got left? Pobrecitos! Me dan lástima!!Pos no que muy chingones?? ONE OLD LADY SINGLE HANDED HAS BROUGHT YOU TO YOUR KNEES CABRONES ;)

Anonymous said...

The Feds are near and dear to people that want justice!

Anonymous said...

If Gonzalez is an honest leader why is he taking up with Luci and Cata. What does he owe them. He claims to be a Good Christian Man? Well, just tell us who you hang with and we can see what is deep in your soul. What company you keep Hector Gonzalez! Honest? Not!

Anonymous said...

The Statement below was posted by Cata. Why you ask? Because that is her method. She is constantly accusing people of doing exactly what she does. She tries to throw blame. Word on the street is that she paid several politiqueras to go out and harvest votes anyway they could. She paid well because she got the cash for it from her anonymous donors. She uses several "Alias" when she spreads rummors. Just read carefully.

Anonymous said...
FROM RRANONY"DIDN'T MINERVA, POWERS, CHIRINOS AND BUTCH BARBOSA ALLEGEDLY?????
--USED BETWEEN 363 -456 POLITIQUERA MAIL-IN V0TES??
--USED BETWEEN 900-1200 EARLY ELECTION POLITIQUERA VOTES?? AND
--USED SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO VOTE?? USED JAIL BIRDS, UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE, USED PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED OUT OF BROWNSVILLE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION????"

November 10, 2012 7:16 AM


Anonymous said...

reply comment 11/11/12 8.41pm, i hope you are wright, we need the feds here now, with all this new officials, chif of police, distric attorney,no vamos a llegar a ningun lado,puro pedo,same old shit.

Anonymous said...

I hate when people talk as if the knew, Cata did not have politiqueras because they are the Hernandezes pitiqueras And they were helping prisiissly Barbosa, Powers and Chirinos, Ernie and Norma were angry with Cata because she attended Yolanda Begum's events, they sent Cata a message that their 1,500 elegal votes were going to be for her opponent, besides like Masso paid for all the expenses on the run off, they needed someone to pay for Erin's campaign again. Barbosa, Powers and Chirinos came through and even formed a PAC and the president was Joey Garza, Ernie's sidekick and the one that does all of Erie's dirty work.

Anonymous said...

ortiz in jail dont drop the soap.

rita