By Juan Montoya
A group of dissatisfied combat veterans have confirmed that several national organization has been contacted to determine whether Luis Lucio, the commander of the Veterans of Foreign Ward Post 2035, has been wearing medals he may not have earned.
The case – like many across the country – may be one of so-called Stolen Valor.
Additionally, they say that many veterans of foreign wars have left the local VFW post because of the number of veterans who do not qualify for membership but have been recruited by Lucio to have a voting majority to keep him in his position.
"I left the post and I told Louie why," said one. "He goes around wearing a Purple Heart ribbon and a Vietnam Combat Action Ribbon that he didn't earn. And he has recruited a lot of people to join the post who never saw combat and don't qualify to be memebers."
The national bylaws of the VFW state that membership is open to: ""Those serving honorably in the U.S. Armed Forces in a foreign war or overseas operation recognized by a campaign medal, in Korea after June 30, 1949, and recipients of hostile-fire or imminent danger pay. Veterans of World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Lebanon, Persian Gulf and Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan and other smaller expeditionary campaigns, as well as occupation duty, qualify."
The national bylaws of the VFW state that membership is open to: ""Those serving honorably in the U.S. Armed Forces in a foreign war or overseas operation recognized by a campaign medal, in Korea after June 30, 1949, and recipients of hostile-fire or imminent danger pay. Veterans of World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Lebanon, Persian Gulf and Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan and other smaller expeditionary campaigns, as well as occupation duty, qualify."
A photo on the Wall of Honor at the post has a photo of Lucio (see graphic) with service ribbons on his chest. The group say that they have a copy of the citations he is authorized to wear in a copy of his DD214 (discharge papers) that show he was not awarded the ribbons.
"If it's not on your DD214, you aren't supposed to be wearing them," said one. "Louie's DD214 doesn't have that."
Many of the disaffected vets say that at one time or another Lucio has told them that he was United States Marine Corps drill instructor and that he was in the infantry.
Lucio served four years in the Marine Corp.
However, the DD214 clearly states that his MOS (Military Occupational Specialty as "3371, Cook.""Unless he got burned with a stove, you really can't see where he would be awarded a Purple Heart," scoffed one. " A copy of the decorations and medals section in Lucio's DD214 shows that he is only authorized to wear a National Defense Medal (1st Awd); Vietnam Service Medal (2*); Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal (w/device) .
"If it's not on your DD214, you aren't supposed to be wearing them," said one. "Louie's DD214 doesn't have that."
Many of the disaffected vets say that at one time or another Lucio has told them that he was United States Marine Corps drill instructor and that he was in the infantry.
Lucio served four years in the Marine Corp.
However, the DD214 clearly states that his MOS (Military Occupational Specialty as "3371, Cook.""Unless he got burned with a stove, you really can't see where he would be awarded a Purple Heart," scoffed one. " A copy of the decorations and medals section in Lucio's DD214 shows that he is only authorized to wear a National Defense Medal (1st Awd); Vietnam Service Medal (2*); Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal (w/device) .
Lucio has often been seen (as the photo at the post also shows), a number of medals not authorized there. The veterans say that they have studied the decorations he wears and say that there are at least four decorations that are not valid.
Taking the nine from the top to bottom with the top three being 1, 2, and 3, the middle 4,5,6, and the bottom 7,8, and 9, they say they have found that:
1. Purple Heart, Not Awarded
2. USMC Good Conduct Medal, Not Awarded (Note: DD214 reflects a new starting period for qualifying service for the Good Conduct Medal. This period was restarted some 17 months into the enlistment period and would be indicative of a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice or some similar event. Inasmuch as the award was never given, it would appear the remainder of the enlistment period was of insufficient character or duration to qualify for this award.)
3. National Defense Service Medal, Valid.
4. Vietnam Service Medal, Valid with two campaign stars (Note: Individual is wearing 4 campaign stars, which is two more that he is entitled according to the DD214
5. USMC Presidential Unit Citation, Not noted on DD214 (Note: Inverted, being worn upside down)
6. Combat Action Ribbon, Not Awarded
7. Vietnam Campaign Medal, Valid
8. Vietnam Cross of Gallantry Unit Citation, Valid
9. Vietnam Civil Actions Unit Citation, Insufficient evidence on DD214
The veterans group say that they have contacted the organization like the Guardians of Valor (http://guardianofvalor.com/) and got this response June 19:
"We have received your email, and will respond as fast as possible! Due to a large number of inquiries and comments it may take us a bit, but we will respond. We can pull records and see what they reflect."
They say they have also contacted www.fakewarriors.org and www.trektothetroops.com
The slogan for the Fake Warriors group is "The remedy for speech that is false is speech that is true." George Orwell’s novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
The veterans pursuing this investigation say their actions are not meant to impeach Lucio personally, but to restore the honor due to the real veterans who saw action and may have been really wounded or disabled defending this country.
"We want people in our community to honor our combat vets," said one. "When some veterans wear fake ribbons and citations, they perform a great disservice to the ones who really earned them. Right now some people in town know that their actions are not being respected when some people claim an honor that is not due to them."
They say that their complaints to the VFW District headquarters have gotten them no results. If need be, they say, they will take their evidence and their complaints to the national VFW.
"He is the cousin of Texas Sen. Eddie Lucio and that may have played a part in the district sweeping this under the rug," said another. "But this has to stop sometime. Honoring real combat veterans' service is a serious matter."
The slogan for the Fake Warriors group is "The remedy for speech that is false is speech that is true." George Orwell’s novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
The veterans pursuing this investigation say their actions are not meant to impeach Lucio personally, but to restore the honor due to the real veterans who saw action and may have been really wounded or disabled defending this country.
"We want people in our community to honor our combat vets," said one. "When some veterans wear fake ribbons and citations, they perform a great disservice to the ones who really earned them. Right now some people in town know that their actions are not being respected when some people claim an honor that is not due to them."
They say that their complaints to the VFW District headquarters have gotten them no results. If need be, they say, they will take their evidence and their complaints to the national VFW.
"He is the cousin of Texas Sen. Eddie Lucio and that may have played a part in the district sweeping this under the rug," said another. "But this has to stop sometime. Honoring real combat veterans' service is a serious matter."
26 comments:
look who ever you are that makes this accusation if you really care about the VFW why don't you go over there and show your face, and help out instead of complaining and the only reason he got re-elected is cause no one else cares to run for that position. You can always go over and help cut the grass, clean floors etc. keep that big building going and donate some time to the post. There are so many of people like you that are a bunch of haters, and want the red carpet when walking into the Post, they need money to pay bills and Mr. Lucio helps get donations for the Post. So why don't you help out instead of making a big deal about some medals or ribbons.
The mexican's psyche is such that a little lying is okay. This fucktard must be one insecure fucker. Purple Heart for what - surviving a six-taco plate?
Cook really dam,a legend in his own mind
Fucking Mexicans! They'll do it every time! Claiming accomplishments. Pendejo!
That asshole has made a living out of requesting everything because he is a Hero veteran, there is really War Heroes at VFW in Brownsville, and they don't act as arrogant and stuck up as this stupid drunk Louie Lucio.
Contact Congressman Filemon Vela to get his help with this Sucio Lucio. There is no reason that VFWs should put up with this disgrace. Pinche Sucio Lucios!
If he has a Purple Heart it will be indicated under his picture on his VA identification card. He is but one of many who exaggerate their service. I have found that those that brag the most are not accurately defining their war time or military experience. Seems a. Large number brag about serving as "snipers". In 2 combat tours in Vietnam. I never met a sniper.
Ese vato se cree bien verga y la verdad es que no vale verga. He even wears a girl scouts badge. He'll wear anything he can find.
Sadamn in disguise at the VFW Logde .
some of the medals that they can wear a commemorative medals such as overseas service, cold war, and the Tet campaign medals. they don't have to been on DD214
yeah like Rolando Medrano(retired County lazy jailer). He faked sickness to avoid serving and now he claims he is a vet.
Who's bitching? Some kid from the all volunteer army probably, that not only volunteered for the bull shit, but was well paid to do it. Certainly not the drafted army of Vietnam that this guy served in, working for slave wages.
Screw this bull shit. Quit picking on this Vietnam vet. I don't care how many f..g stars he wants to put on his medals. Cooks are soldiers too. We're all crazy, so just lighten the fuck up, volunteer.
Where is that Great 1-year-in-the-Army "vet" Wightman when U need him? Is he going to give Lucio a pass on this? Aha ha ha
Chinga tu madre, Luis. Chinga tu madre, Big Boy
To the fucktard who wrote the first comment:
They are not just any ribbons or medals. To the service men and women who actually worked to earn them they mean a lot. Those who earned them deserve a special kind of respect because it cost them blood and sacrifices not every service man or woman made. Chinga tu madre, pendejo!
Because if he lied about this, which is sacred to ALL veterans, he would continue to lie about everything. If he has any HONOR he would come clean.......
If it's true that he's wearing medals that he didn't earn he brought this upon himself, you have to earn them!there is something called honor,and integrity look it up websters
If some of you fruck heads don't quit your bullshit Sadamn is going to get you !
(and they don't act as arrogant and stuck up as this stupid drunk Louie Lucio.)
He showed me a pic once, of a stack of gooks which he claimed he killed himself. I did not believe him.
Dags.
Cooks get killed and wounded like any soldier. Lost a cook to motor rounds in Vietnam.
Rockets, motors and bullets do not kill or wound by mos. All soldiers in combat deserve respect.
All the men at the VFW do, is argue with one another, left many years ago, pinches Mexicanos todo lo que hacen es pelear. And complain about the VA, ponganse a trabajar.
Mexicans in Brownsville making up fake accomplishments for a lack thereof? I've never heard of such a thing. SHOCKING.
Anonymous Shit I am an American Mexican deceant what's the complaints that you have is it with the commander or with Hispanic,Mexicans,that are legally in the country and served. Cooks ,clerks ,mechanics,all of them are Marines or Sailors,Soldiers,Airman, don't know who you are. Carlos Hathcock was a sniper with 93 confirmed kills. In Vietnam as nick name White Feather he was a 5811 military police estimated he killed between 300 to 400 . M.P. Retired Marine with my kids also served and serving one is retired.
Like Mama said, " If u cant say someting good about someone, dont say anything at all." We need the negative talk about VFW to stop. All vets need to come together and make our Post a proud place to come to. Its true the VFW is run by volunteers, and we need more to make it work. So, please, come on out and support and stop bad mouthing.
making up fake accomplishments for a lack thereof? I've never heard of such a thing. SHOCKING!!!
ONLY IN THE VFW???
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