By Juan Montoya
A few years ago I was visiting with friends in a southwest rural Minnesota community.
It was the Fourth of July and with everything closed, my friend and I walked over to the local Veterans of Foreign Wars hall to shoot the bull with the local vets and quaff a few.
They were friendly enough and we were getting along just fine when the bartender in the well remarked loudly that his sister had joined a group that left in a bus to Minneapolis-St. Paul to protest George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Although he wasn't himself a veteran, he thought he would ingratiate himself with the customers, by criticizing his sister and those in the protest group as being unpatriotic.
"It's a shame," he continued, "that those bums are out there screaming on the street while our troops are in Iraq," he said plaintively. "I told her I didn't agree with what she was doing."
As he looked around for what he though would be unanimous agreement, a vet spoke up from the far end of the well.
"Good for her," said the vet who I later learned had served in combat in Korea and then Vietnam. "A lot of people went to war and fought and died so that your sister can enjoy the freedoms guaranteed to all Americans. We went to fight overseas so that your sister could exercise her right to protest. We don't have to agree with her."
This, I feel, is the mature eyes-wide-open patriotism that we have to exercise as we walk in a free country.
The first settlers came to this country fleeing religious prosecution. That is, they left because their way of worshipping their God did not sit well with traditional philosophies of mainstream English society.
So it stands to reason that when the Declaration of independence was penned and approved by the Continental Congress, there was no state religion included in the document. In fact, when the U.S. Constitution was approved by delegates to the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, the convention's president George Washington voiced a prayer thanking not a god or a celestial power, but rather, a Creator.
In the Bill of Rights attached to the Constitution as a requisite for all the colonies to agree to sign on to the it, the now-famous words that delineate the curbs on the government over individual rights still reign supreme in our country.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
But there is also a mirror image to these rights. One could very well read that an individual is not only free to speak, but also not to; to worship or not worship as he sees fit; to exercise his right to assemble, or not; and to pledge loyalty, or not, to the government short of trying to overthrow it.
A few years ago I was visiting with friends in a southwest rural Minnesota community.
It was the Fourth of July and with everything closed, my friend and I walked over to the local Veterans of Foreign Wars hall to shoot the bull with the local vets and quaff a few.
They were friendly enough and we were getting along just fine when the bartender in the well remarked loudly that his sister had joined a group that left in a bus to Minneapolis-St. Paul to protest George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Although he wasn't himself a veteran, he thought he would ingratiate himself with the customers, by criticizing his sister and those in the protest group as being unpatriotic.
"It's a shame," he continued, "that those bums are out there screaming on the street while our troops are in Iraq," he said plaintively. "I told her I didn't agree with what she was doing."
As he looked around for what he though would be unanimous agreement, a vet spoke up from the far end of the well.
"Good for her," said the vet who I later learned had served in combat in Korea and then Vietnam. "A lot of people went to war and fought and died so that your sister can enjoy the freedoms guaranteed to all Americans. We went to fight overseas so that your sister could exercise her right to protest. We don't have to agree with her."
This, I feel, is the mature eyes-wide-open patriotism that we have to exercise as we walk in a free country.
The first settlers came to this country fleeing religious prosecution. That is, they left because their way of worshipping their God did not sit well with traditional philosophies of mainstream English society.
So it stands to reason that when the Declaration of independence was penned and approved by the Continental Congress, there was no state religion included in the document. In fact, when the U.S. Constitution was approved by delegates to the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, the convention's president George Washington voiced a prayer thanking not a god or a celestial power, but rather, a Creator.
In the Bill of Rights attached to the Constitution as a requisite for all the colonies to agree to sign on to the it, the now-famous words that delineate the curbs on the government over individual rights still reign supreme in our country.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
But there is also a mirror image to these rights. One could very well read that an individual is not only free to speak, but also not to; to worship or not worship as he sees fit; to exercise his right to assemble, or not; and to pledge loyalty, or not, to the government short of trying to overthrow it.
In fact, in this last respect, the Declaration of Independence clearly reserves that right to "the people."
The Second Amendment, for example, has long been an object of controversy because it states that "a well- regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
This, to gun-rights groups, means that Americans have a right to bear arms. Conversely, it also give people the people the right not to bear arms if they don't want to.
The case involving children of Jehovah's Witnesses not pledging allegiance to the flag is but one example of the Constitution protecting differing viewpoints.
In that case, children of this sect were being forced to pledge allegiance to the flag when their religion taught them that "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
The Second Amendment, for example, has long been an object of controversy because it states that "a well- regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
This, to gun-rights groups, means that Americans have a right to bear arms. Conversely, it also give people the people the right not to bear arms if they don't want to.
The case involving children of Jehovah's Witnesses not pledging allegiance to the flag is but one example of the Constitution protecting differing viewpoints.
In that case, children of this sect were being forced to pledge allegiance to the flag when their religion taught them that "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the children and declared that they, or anyone, should not to be forced to pledge allegiance to anything.
In fact, our country has grown so diverse that to an orphan immigrant from Africa (Asia, Mexico, Vietnam, etc.), the term "Motherhood and apple pie" would be meaningless.
In fact, our country has grown so diverse that to an orphan immigrant from Africa (Asia, Mexico, Vietnam, etc.), the term "Motherhood and apple pie" would be meaningless.
The veteran from Minnesota was right.
Many people have worked and sacrificed themselves to make this country what it is. Don't belittle their memory by limiting the rights of others who may be, think, or look different than you.
27 comments:
I agree to disagree
Patriotic is defined as
having or expressing devotion to and vigorous support for one's country
Thus kneeling is expressing devotion to a
Cause
The flag and/or the national anthem did not kill Floyd
The police although workung for the state or government at whatever level
Did not and do not necesarily act or represent our constutution they simply uphold it
Montoya! If you ask a Veteran if it's unpatriotic to kneel during the anthem he/she would say yes it is! Do it on your own time and place!
Ya Basta con el “pobrecito de mí”.
Palabras no te hacen daño comparar a el daño que hacen cuando se juntan y comienzan a brincar y saltar y gritar y luego unos comienzan a robar, tumbar y quemar negocios. El mensaje del mal que le hicieron al pobrecito señor George Floyd, se pierde con todo el mal que están causando todos los que se están juntando a robar y destruir negocios. Ya basta! Por Favor.
What every American who served the U.S. military knows the Boot camp drill that laid out exactly what we were serving for - freedom exemplified by the very words that went to what made America different.
To now "toe" a political crooked line is absurd and a disgusting give-up.
Fight for the right to speak, to dissent, to have your voice heard and included in the dialogue.
Veterans should be leading, not getting in the way...
Demonstrations, which spread around the world, also grew in smaller American towns, including some with histories of Ku Klux Klan activity.
Harlingen Texas is one but nobody protested there - wonder why
Hike-bike trail study gets OK; Route would give access to Bahia Grande
WHAT!!!!
where!!!
must have read a wrong report
Code Switching: Professors work to document blend of languages spoken the Valley
Dr. Katherine Christoffersen, one of the two grantees
is the project director and principal investigator on the grant, together with Dr. Ryan Bessett and Dr. Ana Carvalho (based at the University of Arizona).
puro pinches gringos what they gonna tell us?
The city of Brownsville has gotten the green light for a feasibility study on creating a scenic hike-and-bike trail through the Bahia Grande as part of the Caracara Trails network.
What are they going to write on that study - that the bike trails here are always used and need to expand? what this city needs is to address the traffic problem sync the traffic lights and of COURSE POT HOLES POT HOLES AND MORE POT HOLES AND DON'T MENTION FLOODING!!!!
NOT BIKE TRAILS BOLA DE PENDEJOS...
The dirty truth about police departments? They're lying to us
Please only allow comments pertinent to the opinion piece.
No es ser no patriota pero es falta de respto
Lost History: Architecture pioneer’s house demolished
Hahahahahahahalol hahahahahah
Not to worry there are a lot of other houses that can be designed historical homes. Just pick any elected official the ALL live in historical houses and don't pay NO TAX
You are correct in stating that every protester (from those criticizing the governor of Michigan’s lockdown orders to those protesting the police) has the right to exhibit their free speech. The observation that I have made is that there does not seem to be a correlation between patriotism and one expressing their rights (or at least subjective to one’s point of view).
If this were true, then the media would be calling the lockdown protesters “patriotic” and “exemplars of freedom”. Instead, they these individuals are called “rednecks”, and “dangerous” even though I do not recall anyone actually being killed or property being damaged in those protests (could have been, but I did not hear of any). The police protesters on the other hand are being held in high regard even though they are violating the same “Social Distancing” orders as the other protesters. In fact, these “mostly” peaceful protests have led to several deaths and injuries.
I salute anyone willing to practice his or her rights of free speech and assembly, including that of the unnecessary death of Mr. Floyd, but I am sure we all have to agree that if a group of KKK members started a protest down Elizabeth St. none of us could call that patriotic. This has been a long-winded way of saying that one could consider taking a knee during the pledge as unpatriotic. This opinion should be okay, just in the same way as those who find it patriotic. That’s the wonderful thing about opinions, they are not facts, they can’t be right or wrong (just good or bad on one’s point of view).
As protesters hit the streets night after night in Minneapolis last weekend and reporters followed to cover the events, law enforcement agencies went out to do their own type of vandalism: slashing and puncturing people’s tires.
Videos can be found online showing these brave American law enforcement apples systematically destroying reporters’ and protesters’ vehicles. “In the videos, officers puncture tires in a K-Mart parking lot on May 30 and a highway overpass on May 31. Both areas briefly turned into police staging grounds near protest hot spots.”
The Star Tribune has identified two law enforcement agencies as the perpetrators of this fascistic brand of vandalism. They’re state troopers and deputies from Anoka County.
Now you know cops are no angels.
In due to recent events, how does the City of Brownsville stand on the issue of racism? Let us examine this issue and determine if such behavior exist in our community.
Many would simply say no to such behavior especially in the Rio Grande Valley; people would say we are the majority. But, yet a simple “rock” in a city park of this community tells us otherwise. A “rock” that honors a gentleman who lead those who separated themselves from the Union of this Great Nation because of their beliefs to the rights to oppress individuals of the black race for their own economy benefits.
However, our city leaders view the “rock” in a different manner. They refuse to offend the United Daughters of the Confederacy who claims that such monument is a great tribute to an individual who provided his leadership in serving his fellow man. Yes, he served the people who were willing to fight a war against their fellow man in order to keep a society of discrimination and oppression against individual who they saw as inferiors.
Why hasn’t our city leaders done anything on this issue? Why has our local bloggers (Bobby, Jerry, Barton, Juan and others) fail to lead the community on this issue? Why hasn’t the Hispanic community not stood up and said, “Ya basta”? Is there anybody in our community that truly belief that Black Lives Matter? This is discrimination not only against Black America but discrimination against all minorities in this our great Nation.
Could it be that the City of Brownsville, Texas is really racist? Would Don Pedro from the Brownsville Herald have this to say, “son una bola de racistas en Brownsville”?
Lost History: Architecture pioneer’s house demolished
So what happened to the opera house on levee and other historical buildings??? bola de babosos
Being legal is not the same thing as being patriotic.
American Cities Are Swiftly Rethinking Police Budgets
As tens of thousands have demonstrated against police violence over the past two weeks, calls have emerged for fundamental changes to American policing.
Elected officials are considering efforts ranging from defunding police departments to requiring more accountability.
Y aqui? I heard they are going to build a tank trails next to the bike trails and armed all pd with laser rifles and laser hand guns.
All traffic and street maintenance funding will be transferred to PD.
Since nobody here protested the elected officials will do as they please...
With that said, it may behoove those that do not know of or appreciate the metaphorical, or the reality of embracing Motherhood or for that matter Applepie.
Just because immigrants are not familiar with the ideals that are American does not make those ideals bad. Change is not bad, change is inevitable, but history is not evidently.
What do you call a coco? A racist? a pendejo? a mamon? a traitor? a estulle? a culo? a lambiscon? a tio tom? not a taco he eats burgers? all of the above???
M-A M - MEXICAN-AMERICANS MATTER...
Anonymous 4:27pm has just called out the Brownsville Bloggers. So, Bobby, Juan, McHale, Barton, and others, what are you going to do? Are you going to continue letting Brownsville be a racist city? It is time to take down the "rock".
If you think cops are bad
You should see border patrols
Juan, it is time for you to take out the picture of Cesar Chavez and you, and say "Ya Basta!". The "rock" is a symbol of racism in our community.
Instead of addressing the issue of racism (the "rock) in Brownsville, Jerry keeps his readers occupied with stories about Donald Clupper and the Cowen Brothers. Jerry's motto is lets keep Brownsville as the "Third World Capital of the United States". Meanwhile the newest blogger (Diego) in town is too busy trying to figure out where he is going to eat his next meal, now that Luby's closed its door in Brownsville. As per Bobby, only he knows what he is writing about in his blog. For awhile, he though that he was connected with "no action Trey".
An individual who kneels during the National Anthem by choice (as opposed to those with some infirmity which precludes their rising) has broken no law that I am aware of. What he or she has done is demonstrated poor judgement, a bad character and a willful selfishness.
Hate begets hate. Gringo hate begets Mexican hate. you fools expect something different?
I was raised to respect and even venerate the flag, and while I have always thought that the Battle Hymn of the Republic should have become our anthem, I always stand for our anthem. I have done so since I could walk and am not about to stop now. Of course everyone is entitled to different beliefs, I, for example, despise Black Lives Matter as a blatantly racist movement however justified some of its complaints might be. No one should be legally penalized for choosing to be an asshole; it is their God given right. They should however be shunned as the scum that they are.
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